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The Creation by LadyAway The Creation by LadyAway
this picture has come to my mind when I was thinking about evolution, you know, all these probability things. So, this must be how it really began :P

Now, seriously:

A question to evolutionists: how could the stripes of a tiger be random? Every little hair has its own color, could it be mixed so perfectly just by accident? (remember, evolution is blind, it couldn't know the stripes are proper without checking it, and didn't even SEE the stripes as a pattern, just single hair that can be black, white or orange)

A question to creationists: if the probability of accidental making of just a part of the simplest organism is almost zero, what's the probability of accidental making/being-there forever some all-mighty, omniscient thing?
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GrinReaperX Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Answer from a creationist: If you actually understand what an all-mighty, omniscient God is, you will realize that he could create time. Although our human minds cannot comprehend the non-existence of time, that doesn't give us reason doubt that there was a time when there was no time. Since God is an all-mighty being, and created time, he could have easily been around forever with no beginning, because before he created them, there was no such thing as a beginning and no such thing as the concept of forever. 
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can easily embrace the concept of no time, but there's this other problem - if so complex, beautiful, diverse and well-measured world is a proof that it was created by someone, how could an omnipotent, all-knowing, all-mighty being have been there forever? Wouldn't so complex deity (no one will say God is simpler than the world he created) need a creator too? He's beautiful, he's complex, he's perfect - how could something like this exist without a creator?
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GrinReaperX Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If he created time, that means he wouldn't be able to have a beginning.Without time, there is no beginning. God was forever there. Since God can be considered the most omnipotent, complex deity in existence, there is nothing that could be more omnipotent and complex, which means he has no creator, and simply decided to make the universe and time. There is probably a different dimension in which he lived that has concepts we don't have in our universe, therefore making it hard to understand how he could always be there.
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But if he actually is perfect and absolute, why did he create the world? It would mean that when there was no world, he needed it to be - he needed something, therefore he wasn't absolute. What's more, he created humans to love him (another need), although without us he would have nothing to care about. What does he need the world for?
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GrinReaperX Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He created the world because he wanted to be able to create a world and intervene with it. He created it for the same reason that the scientist from Sword Art Online created his world.
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think it was the same reason - we, as animals, are driven by needs. Everything we do is to feel fulfilled, be it eating or creating. If God had to create world and humans to feel fulfilled, he most certainly wasn't perfect before. Because to want something, first you need to not have it. Perfect being has everything it could possibly need, so why would it create anything? If you were full, happy, rested, psychically fulfilled and not bored, you would only sit and be. Necessity is the mother of invention, need is the mother of creation, perfection is the mother of stagnation.
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GrinReaperX Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That isn't entirely true. He was fully contented, but he could still want to do something different. Having humans to love him and serve him would have been interesting.
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think you didn't understand me. Perfection is a state of having everything and not needing anything. It's a state we all try to (hopelessly) reach. If you seem to have it all and still need something, then you're not perfect. According to your depiction, God was a little bit bored, and he created us to feel better.
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Kei2000 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013  Student General Artist
Piękna praca. Jeśli chodzi o wygląd smoków, to bardziej przypadł mi do gustu czarny, jednakowoż obydwa są bardzo dobrze wykonane :)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
czarne zawsze są jakieś takie pełne charakteru ;)
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Kei2000 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013  Student General Artist
Ano, co racja to racja. Choć białe też mają swój urok xp
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HiddenLions Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This would make an awesome necklace X3

Very beautiful, simple yet complex.
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OneKitten Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Student General Artist
This is so beautiful! :love:
Great job, I love the concept
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks :hug:
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Pinnithin Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the concept and idea that this came from. It's a really fantastic piece, too! :)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks :hug:
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MessatsuGouFox Featured By Owner May 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Neat~
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LadyAway Featured By Owner May 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks :)
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Omega-Primate Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2012   Traditional Artist
That's beautiful!
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:iconladyaway:
LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks :)
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Omega-Primate Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
You left me speechless... you're welcome! :D
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Lostaesion Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I absolutely love this!
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:aww:
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FireshockerBill Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool! :)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:aww:
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paintsplatter11 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
this is amazing how long does it take you to make something like this!?
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think it was about 15-17 hours, I didn't use any lineart so it was quite fast :)
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Cybermas Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
awesome
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:aww:
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Cybermas Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
have any more dragon sculptures comming up?
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yep, I've made one dragon of Sculpey (yaaay) and it looks great, it just stayed at home and I can't take any pics of it atm. But stay tuned :)
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Cybermas Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
coolish
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Drangir Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Fajne, chociaż mogłoby być więcej czerwonych elementów, imo byłoby ciekawiej. Po za tym, może sugerując się tytułem - kreatywne :)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nie chciałam przesadzić, w jednej wersji dodałam trochę czerwieni między czarne łuski (taki efekt lawy), ale coś mi tam nie pasowało i zawróciłam do kopii :P
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Drangir Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Słusznie, łatwo przesadzić z błyskotkami ;)
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Aquilla-Whingate Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012   General Artist
Ahh, sis is a lovely complimenting image that I see as well rounded as it looks like the balance of good and evil, or black and white yin yang, etc. I like how it is centered and and otherwise sense of existence like the questions you proposed.

I have always been raised to the Creationists point of view and that that how can nothing exist without a higher existence, even if he has not been seen, I still accept that. An like as you said Evolution is blind well the same can be said of Faith. I do take the logic of creation to science as well in my case, like in Genesis 1 to 5:'
"1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
As for me there to me think What better way to illustrate the Big Bang than in those verses? The biggest contradiction then to Evolution is the idea of time where in the Bible it says a day for each where Evolution says millions of years, so where is any middle ground? My idea is all in the perception of "time.
" As in another place in the Bible 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
If such is the case that if were were to stand at the beginning of creation as a witness then, what night be to god as a day very well could be thousands of years to us; because what is the life span of a human life on earth as compared to eternity? An time was said to be a creature of "God" made from the moment of the first day. So in all I do not disregard all science, just certain aspects as I would believe Micro vs Macro evolution. An as the Bible certain things I also do question and dragons just as much as Creation is a big one, as Revelations might regard the dragon as the embodiment of Satan but it is also said as a representation of Seraphims however quite overlooked [link] & [link]
As for the whole example with the tiger interesting, but dose drift the actual question from: Do you believe, in Creationism or Evolution, and why?
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't believe in God as he's described in Bible, but I know real Christians are the most happy people alive - they don't need to be afraid of anything, for both good and bad things are controlled by a person that wants the best for them. Their life is totally peaceful, they don't need to fight for anything, and they know they will be even happier when they die. The Bible also contains a lot of good rules that would make the world perfect if everyone obeys them. But I myself can't believe in God that blackmails me, saying that I can not love Him if I don't want to, but this will make me hurt infinitely when I'm dead and judged.
I used to visit the church every Sunday, now I avoid it beacuse I have too much doubts, and a lot of lessons make no sense to me. Religion to me is a great way to make people happy with their lives (because if there's nothing after death, they won't know it - they will live their lives just as if they were supposed to last forever). I don't believe in life after death, because I once moved quickly through the tunnel and saw the light, but it was caused by my meditation and I wasn't even close to death.

But I'm agnostic and never believe in anything completely. I try to do my own research, make sure about everything, but I'll never say there's no God, or there is God for sure. That's why I'm asking about evolutionism too. And you're right about the time of creation, it's just like me clicking "add commment" - for me it's a second, but there are a lot of things that happen afterwards, and all I see is just the result of clicking, not the path to it. So this is how God could do it - create the first organism and program it to become a creature being able to discover Him. And as He's not bound to time, it happened in one moment to Him.

And I really like the article you found about seraphim, it's nice to hear that Bible doesn't treat dragons only as evil :)
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Natoli Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Bardzo fajny rys, akcenty czerwieni mi sie bardzo podobaja :D

Jedynie kadr mógłby byc inny, dałabym więcej "powietrza" na dole i przesunęłabym smoki idealnie na środek w poziomie ;)

Ale naprawde super ;)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
z tym środkiem nie było łatwo, bo są tu dwa - jeden wyznacza ogon, drugi to punkt między łbami. Nie pokrywają się niestety, więc musiałam uśrednić :P
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newboldworld Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
An excellent creation! :-)
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:hug:
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Urnam-BOT Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
RE:"A question to creationists"

Life as we know it is physically impossible. Everything has to come from something, and scientifically, reality is impossible.

So, as my train of thought goes, something must have created it.

Trust me, that cannot be argued with, and I have yet to see anybody with a reasonable explanation for life existing without a creator. XP
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yes, everything has to come from something in our world. And life comes from perfectly arranged pieces of dead matter that's a result of Big Bang. How could it be that there was nothing before Big Bang? Maybe there was. Maybe our universe is just a small part of something huge, an enormous space where a lot of Big Bangs happen all the time. Forever.

Accidental self-creation of life is almost impossible as you said, it's like waiting for a ape to write the Bible when it's clicking randomly on the keyboard. No chance. But imagine you have infinity for it. Only something with null chance will never happen. And accidental self-creation's probability is very close to zero indeed, but it's not-null value. And when you have infity for it, it will happen. If the probability is 1 to 10^50 (or something like that), it will happen in 10^50 days. In any of these days, even the first one.

But it's only my cogitation, and I don't claim it to be right. I think the purpose of life is to hold it, because such a miracle may never happen again. Every form of life is for me like a back-up file with better and better protection to save the life. And if all the life died, there would be no reality and no time too, because there's no reality without beings that can experience it.

I think you, as a Christian, are really happy. There's somone that will care about you forever, and you'll never die. But for me believing is not that simple anymore, I'm asking too many questions...
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Dragon-Godess Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that is really cool :D I love dragons :D
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:hug:
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Dragon-Godess Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:dummy:
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Tyrei Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012  Student General Artist
It is a very beautiful and well-rendered drawing. :) I love the complexity of the intertwined tails and the texturing of the skin/scales.

As for your question about evolution -- I don't really understand what you're asking in relation to the stripes being "random." It's simply natural selection. Random mutations occur all the time, creating unpredictable results. Most of these mutated individuals are at a disadvantage and therefore die before getting the chance to reproduce. Others, by pure chance, are born with a mutation that increases their aptitude in the given environment -- these individuals will survive to reproduce prolifically, and if the conditions are right, the gene will proliferate and change the characteristics of the species as a whole. In short, the tiger's stripes are not "random" -- they are the final product of millions of small mutations throughout the tiger's ancestral history going back millions of years.
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you described the evolution right, but think about all the ways the fur could be colored. 3 colors x the number of hair, it's a lot when it comes to mixing and trying all the combinations, checking what makes the organism more survivable. But :iconveryodbod: gave me right answer I think, it's influence of light, beams falling on the tiger's fur through bushes and grass :)
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RoseCS Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
wonderful!!
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LadyAway Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:hug:
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